SIST EN IEC 62576:2018
(Main)Electric double-layer capacitors for use in hybrid electric vehicles - Test methods for electrical characteristics
Electric double-layer capacitors for use in hybrid electric vehicles - Test methods for electrical characteristics
This document describes the methods for testing electrical characteristics of electric
double-layer capacitor cells (hereinafter referred to as "capacitor") used for peak power
assistance in hybrid electric vehicles.
All the tests in this document are type tests.
This document can also be applicable to the capacitor used in idling reduction systems (start
and-stop systems) for the vehicles.
This document can also be applicable to the capacitor modules consisting of more than one
cell.
NOTE Annex E provides information on endurance cycling test.
Elektrische Doppelschichtkondensatoren für die Verwendung in Hybridelektrofahrzeugen - Prüfverfahren für die elektrischen Kennwerte
Condensateurs électriques à double couche pour véhicules électriques hybrides - Méthodes d'essai des caractéristiques électriques
NEW!IEC 62576:2018 est disponible sous forme de IEC 62576:2018 RLV qui contient la Norme internationale et sa version Redline, illustrant les modifications du contenu technique depuis l'édition précédente.
L'IEC 62576:2018 décrit les méthodes d'essai des caractéristiques électriques des cellules de condensateur électrique à double couche (ci-après dénommé "condensateur") utilisées pour l'assistance en puissance de crête dans les véhicules électriques hybrides. Cette deuxième édition annule et remplace la première édition parue en 2009. Cette édition constitue une révision technique. Cette édition inclut les modifications techniques majeures suivantes par rapport à l'édition précédente:
a) des informations sur le champ d'application du présent document ont été ajoutées dans l'Article 1;
b) les définitions de certains termes de l'Article 3 ont été améliorées;
c) la description des procédures d'essai de l'Article 4 a été clarifiée;
d) des informations sur l'essai cyclique d'endurance ont été ajoutées (Annexe E).
Elektronski dvoplastni kondenzatorji za hibridna električna vozila - Metode za preskušanje električnih karakteristik
Ta dokument opisuje metode za preskušanje električnih karakteristik celic elektronskih dvoplastnih kondenzatorjev (v nadaljevanju »kondenzator«), ki se uporabljajo kot podpora vršni moči v hibridnih električnih vozilih.
Vsi preskusi, obravnavani v tem dokumentu, so tipski preskusi.
Ta dokument je mogoče uporabljati tudi za kondenzator, ki se uporablja v sistemih za skrajšanje časa prostega teka vozil (sistemi zagon-zaustavitev).
Ta dokument je mogoče uporabljati tudi za kondenzatorske module, ki so sestavljeni iz več kot ene celice.
OPOMBA: Dodatek E podaja informacije o cikličnem preskusu vzdržljivosti.
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Electric double-layer capacitors for use in hybrid electric vehicles - Test methods for
electrical characteristics
Elektrische Doppelschichtkondensatoren für die Verwendung in Hybridelektrofahrzeugen
- Prüfverfahren für die elektrischen Kennwerte
Condensateurs électriques à double couche pour véhicules électriques hybrides -
Méthodes d'essai des caractéristiques électriques
Ta slovenski standard je istoveten z: EN IEC 62576:2018
ICS:
31.060.01 Kondenzatorji na splošno Capacitors in general
43.120 (OHNWULþQDFHVWQDYR]LOD Electric road vehicles
SIST EN IEC 62576:2018 en
2003-01.Slovenski inštitut za standardizacijo. Razmnoževanje celote ali delov tega standarda ni dovoljeno.
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EUROPEAN STANDARD EN IEC 62576
NORME EUROPÉENNE
EUROPÄISCHE NORM
June 2018
ICS 31.060.99; 43.120 Supersedes EN 62576:2010
English Version
Electric double-layer capacitors for use in hybrid electric vehicles
- Test methods for electrical characteristics
(IEC 62576:2018)
Condensateurs électriques à double couche pour véhicules Elektrische Doppelschichtkondensatoren für die
électriques hybrides - Méthodes d'essai des Verwendung in Hybridelektrofahrzeugen - Prüfverfahren für
caractéristiques électriques die elektrischen Kennwerte
(IEC 62576:2018) (IEC 62576:2018)
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EN IEC 62576:2018
European foreword
The text of document 69/486/CDV, future edition 2 of IEC 62576, prepared by IEC/TC 69 "Electric
road vehicles and electric industrial trucks" was submitted to the IEC-CENELEC parallel vote and
approved by CENELEC as EN IEC 62576:2018.
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(dop) 2018-12-27
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standards conflicting with the
document have to be withdrawn
This document supersedes EN 62576:2010.
Attention is drawn to the possibility that some of the elements of this document may be the subject of
patent rights. CENELEC shall not be held responsible for identifying any or all such patent rights.
Endorsement notice
The text of the International Standard IEC 62576:2018 was approved by CENELEC as a European
Standard without any modification.
In the official version, for Bibliography, the following notes have to be added for the standards indicated:
IEC 61881-3:2012 NOTE Harmonized as EN 61881-3:2012 (not modified).
IEC 61881-3:2012/A1:2013 NOTE Harmonized as EN 61881-3:2012/A1:2013 (not modified).
IEC 62391 Series NOTE Harmonized as EN 62391 Series.
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CONTENTS
FOREWORD . 4
INTRODUCTION . 6
1 Scope . 7
2 Normative references . 7
3 Terms and definitions . 7
4 Tests methods . 10
4.1 Capacitance, internal resistance, and maximum power density . 10
4.1.1 Circuit for measurement . 10
4.1.2 Test equipment . 10
4.1.3 Measurement procedure . 11
4.1.4 Calculation method for capacitance . 12
4.1.5 Calculation method for internal resistance . 12
4.1.6 Calculation method for maximum power density . 13
4.2 Voltage maintenance characteristics . 13
4.2.1 Circuit for measurement . 13
4.2.2 Test equipment . 14
4.2.3 Measurement procedures . 15
4.2.4 Calculation of voltage maintenance rate . 16
4.3 Energy efficiency . 16
4.3.1 Circuit for test . 16
4.3.2 Test equipment . 16
4.3.3 Measurement procedures . 17
4.3.4 Calculation of energy efficiency . 18
Annex A (informative) Endurance test: continuous application of rated voltage at high
temperature . 20
A.1 General . 20
A.2 Test procedure . 20
A.2.1 Test condition . 20
A.2.2 Test procedure . 20
A.2.3 Judgment criteria . 20
Annex B (informative) Heat equilibrium time of capacitors . 22
B.1 General . 22
B.2 Heat equilibrium time of capacitors . 22
Annex C (informative) Charging/discharging efficiency and measurement current . 24
C.1 General . 24
C.2 Charging efficiency, discharging efficiency, and current . 24
Annex D (informative) Procedures for setting the measurement current of capacitor
with uncertain nominal internal resistance . 26
D.1 General . 26
D.2 Current setting procedures for measurement of capacitor . 26
D.3 Example of setting current for determining capacitor characteristics . 26
Annex E (informative) Endurance cycling test . 27
E.1 General . 27
E.2 Test method . 27
E.2.1 Test temperature . 27
E.2.2 Test equipment . 27
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E.2.3 Preconditioning . 27
E.2.4 Initial measurements . 27
E.2.5 Test steps . 27
E.2.6 Test . 28
E.2.7 End of test criteria . 28
E.2.8 Post treatment . 29
E.2.9 Final measurement . 29
E.2.10 Acceptance criteria . 29
Bibliography . 30
Figure 1 – Basic circuit for measuring capacitance, internal resistance and maximum
power density . 10
Figure 2 – Voltage–time characteristics between capacitor terminals in capacitance
and internal resistance measurement . 11
Figure 3 – Basic circuit for measuring the voltage maintenance characteristics . 14
Figure 4 – Time characteristics of voltage between capacitor terminals in voltage
maintenance test . 15
Figure 5 – Voltage-time characteristics between capacitor terminals in
charging/discharging efficiency test . 17
Figure B.1 – Heat equilibrium times of capacitors (from 85 °C to 25 °C) . 22
Figure B.2 – Heat equilibrium times of capacitors (from –40 °C to 25 °C) . 23
Figure B.3 – Temperature changes of capacitors' central portions . 23
Figure E.1 – Endurance cycling test steps . 28
Table D.1 – Example of setting current for measurement of capacitor . 26
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ELECTRIC DOUBLE-LAYER CAPACITORS FOR USE IN
HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLES – TEST METHODS
FOR ELECTRICAL CHARACTERISTICS
FOREWORD
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International Standard IEC 62576 has been prepared by IEC technical committee 69: Electric
road vehicles and electric industrial trucks.
This second edition cancels and replaces the first edition published in 2009. This edition
constitutes a technical revision.
This edition includes the following significant technical changes with respect to the previous
edition:
a) information on applicability of this document has been added in Clause 1;
b) the definitions of some terms in Clause 3 have been improved;
c) the description of test procedures in Clause 4 has been clarified;
d) information on endurance cycling test has been added (Annex E).
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The text of this International Standard is based on the following documents:
CDV Report on voting
69/486/CDV 69/539/RVC
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INTRODUCTION
The electric double-layer capacitor (capacitor) is used as an energy storage system for
vehicles. Capacitor-installed electric vehicles are commercialized with an eye to improving
fuel economy by recovering regenerative energy, and by peak power assistance during
acceleration, etc. Although standards for capacitors already exists (IEC 62391 series), those
for electric vehicles involve patterns of use, usage environment, and values of current that are
quite different from those assumed in the existing standards. Standard evaluation and test
methods will be useful for both auto manufacturers and capacitor suppliers to speed up the
development and lower the costs of such capacitors. With these points in mind, this document
aims to provide basic and minimum specifications in terms of the methods for testing
electrical characteristics, and to create an environment that supports the expanding market of
electric vehicles and large capacity capacitors. Additional practical test items to be
standardized should be reconsidered after technology and market stabilization of capacitors
for electric vehicles. Regarding endurance, which is important in practical use, just a basic
concept is set forth in the informative annexes.
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ELECTRIC DOUBLE-LAYER CAPACITORS FOR USE IN
HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLES – TEST METHODS
FOR ELECTRICAL CHARACTERISTICS
1 Scope
This document describes the methods for testing electrical characteristics of electric
double-layer capacitor cells (hereinafter referred to as "capacitor") used for peak power
assistance in hybrid electric vehicles.
All the tests in this document are type tests.
This document can also be applicable to the capacitor used in idling reduction systems (start
and-stop systems) for the vehicles.
This document can also be applicable to the capacitor modules consisting of more than one
cell.
NOTE Annex E provides information on endurance cycling test.
2 Normative references
There are no normative references in this document.
3 Terms and definitions
For the purposes of this document, the following terms and definitions apply.
ISO and IEC maintain terminological databases for use in standardization at the following
addresses:
• IEC Electropedia: available at http://www.electropedia.org/
• ISO Online browsing platform: available at http://www.iso.org/obp
3.1
ambient temperature
temperature of the air, in the immediate vicinity of a capacitor
3.2
applied voltage
voltage (V) applied between the terminals of a capacitor
3.3
calculation end voltage
voltage (V) at a selected end point for calculating the characteristics including capacitance
under a state of voltage decrease during discharge
3.4
calculation start voltage
voltage (V) at a selected start point for calculating the characteristics including capacitance
under a state of voltage decrease during discharge
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3.5
capacitance
ability of a capacitor to store electrical charge (F)
3.6
charge accumulated electrical energy
amount of charged energy (J) accumulated from the beginning to the end of charging
3.7
charge current
I
c
current (A) required to charge a capacitor
3.8
charging efficiency
efficiency under specified charging conditions, and ratio (%) of stored energy to charge
accumulated electrical energy
Note 1 to entry: This value is calculated from the internal resistance of a capacitor.
Note 2 to entry: Refer to Formula C.8.
3.9
constant voltage charging
charging during which the voltage is maintained at a constant value regardless of charge
current or temperature
3.10
discharge accumulated electrical energy
amount of discharged energy (J) accumulated from the beginning to the end of discharging
3.11
discharge current
I
d
current (A) required to discharge a capacitor
3.12
discharging efficiency
efficiency under specified discharging conditions, and ratio (%) of discharge accumulated
electrical energy to stored energy
Note 1 to entry: This value is calculated from the internal resistance of a capacitor.
Note 2 to entry: Refer to Formula C.10.
3.13
electric double-layer capacitor
capacitor
device that stores electrical energy using a double layer in an electrochemical cell, and whose
positive and negative electrodes are of the same material
Note 1 to entry: The electrolytic capacitor is not included in capacitor of this document.
3.14
energy efficiency
E
f
ratio (%) of discharge accumulated electrical energy to charge accumulated electrical energy
under specified charging and discharging conditions
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3.15
internal resistance
combined resistance (Ω) of constituent material specific resistance and inside connection
resistance of a capacitor
3.16
maximum power density
P
dm
greatest electrical power output of a capacitor per mass (W/kg) or volume (W/l)
3.17
nominal internal resistance
R
N
nominal value of the internal resistance (R ) to be used in design and measurement condition
N
setting (Ω), generally at the ambient temperature
3.18
post-treatment
discharging and storage of a capacitor under specified ambient conditions (temperature,
humidity, and pressure) after tests
Note 1 to entry: Generally, post-treatment implies that a capacitor is discharged and stored until its inner
temperature attains thermal equilibrium with the surrounding temperature before its electrical characteristics are
measured.
3.19
pre-conditioning
charging and discharging and storage of a capacitor under specified ambient conditions
(temperature, humidity, and pressure) before testing.
Note 1 to entry: Generally, pre-conditioning implies that a capacitor is discharged and stored until its inner
temperature attains thermal equilibrium with the surrounding temperature, before its electrical characteristics are
measured.
3.20
rated voltage
U
R
maximum DC voltage (V) that may be applied continuously for a certain time under the upper
category temperature to a capacitor so that a capacitor can exhibit specified demand
characteristics
Note 1 to entry: This voltage is the setting voltage in capacitor design.
Note 2 to entry: The endurance test using the rated voltage is described in Annex A.
3.21
ambient temperature
temperature of air in the vicinity of the device under test, in this document (25 ± 2) °C
3.22
stored energy
energy (J) stored in a capacitor
3.23
upper category temperature
highest ambient temperature at which a capacitor is designed to operate continuously
3.24
voltage maintenance characteristics
ability of a capacitor to maintain the voltage, with its terminals open, after a specified time
period subsequent to the charging
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3.25
voltage maintenance rate
ratio of voltage maintenance
ratio of the voltage at the open-ended terminals to the charge voltage after a specified time
period subsequent to the charging of a capacitor
4 Tests methods
4.1 Capacitance, internal resistance, and maximum power density
4.1.1 Circuit for measurement
The capacitance and the internal resistance shall be measured by using the constant current
and constant voltage charging and the constant current discharging. Figure 1 shows the basic
circuit to be used for the measurement.
Power supply
a)
S
I
CC
Cx
b)
U
CV
IEC
Key
I constant-current
CC
U constant-voltage
CV
A DC ammeter
V DC voltage recorder
S changeover switch
Cx capacitor under test
constant current discharger
a) constant current charging
b) constant voltage charging
Figure 1 – Basic circuit for measuring capacitance, internal resistance
and maximum power density
4.1.2 Test equipment
The test equipment shall be capable of constant current charging, constant voltage charging,
constant current discharging, and continuous measurement of the current and the voltage
between the capacitor terminals in time-series as shown in Figure 2. The test equipment shall
be able to set the current and the voltage with the accuracy equal to ±1 % or less, and to measure
the current and voltage with accuracy equal to ±0,1 %.
The power supply shall provide the constant charge current for the capacitor charge with 95 %
efficiency, set the duration of constant voltage charge, and provide a discharge current
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corresponding to the specified discharge efficiency. The DC voltage recorder shall be capable
of conducting measurements and recording with a sampling interval of 10 ms or less.
Magnified figure
U
R
U
1
U
2
Time (s)
T
CV
IEC
Key
U rated voltage (V)
R
U calculation start voltage (V)
1
U calculation end voltage (V)
2
∆U voltage drop (V)
3
T constant voltage charging duration (s)
CV
Figure 2 – Voltage–time characteristics between capacitor terminals
in capacitance and internal resistance measurement
4.1.3 Measurement procedure
Measurements shall be carried out in accordance with the following procedures using the test
equipment specified in 4.1.2.
a) Pre-conditioning
Before measurement, the capacitors shall be fully charged and fully discharged, and then
incubated for 2 h to 6 h under the ambient temperature or that specified by the related
standards.
NOTE 1 The heat equilibrium time, which provides a reference for the soaking time, is described in Annex B.
NOTE 2 Charging and discharging can be repeated if necessary until the capacity and internal resistance are
stabilized.
EXAMPLE
Charge and discharge the sample using the current specified by the manufacturer in the following order:
1) fully discharge;
2) charge up to U ;
R
3) discharge down to 0,5 U ;
R
4) repeat 2) and 3) ten times.
b) Sample setting
Fit the sample capacitors with the test equipment.
c) Test equipment setup
Unless otherwise specified by related standards, the test equipment shall be set up in the
following manner.
1) Set the constant current I for charging. At this current, the capacitors shall be able to
c
charge with 95 % charging efficiency based on their nominal internal resistance R .
N
The current value is calculated by I = U /38R . The constant current value or the
c R N
Voltage (V)
∆U
3
∆U
3
...
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